{"id":61902,"date":"2024-11-29T19:16:39","date_gmt":"2024-11-29T19:16:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/?p=61902"},"modified":"2024-11-29T19:19:00","modified_gmt":"2024-11-29T19:19:00","slug":"the-influence-of-lake-michigan-on-lake-erie-lake-effect-snows","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/archives\/61902","title":{"rendered":"The influence of Lake Michigan on Lake Erie lake effect snows"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/ne3comp_1453_1803_29Nov2024.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/ne3comp_1453_1803_29Nov2024.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-61903\"\/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">NEXRAD relfectivity over the northeastern US and Great Lakes, 1503-1813 UTC on 29 November 2024 (Click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Cold air over the Great Lakes (see the plot of 850-mb temperature from RAOB stations at 1200 UTC below; note the similarity in temperatures and wind speeds over the Great Lakes states) means Lake Effect Snow. The animation above (<a href=\"https:\/\/tempest.aos.wisc.edu\/radar\/ne3comphtml5.html\">source<\/a>) shows snow bands over western lower Michigan and also downwind of Lake St. Clair, and in a single band over Lake Erie. An interesting aspect to this animation (to your blogger, at least), is the distance before the radar detection of snow occurs is pretty large over Lake Michigan, but the band development is almost immediate over Lake St. Clair and just a bit slower over Lake Erie. In addition, lake-effect band development over Lake Ontario is a bit slower than over Erie. Why?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/RAOB_T850-20241129_120000.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"719\" src=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/RAOB_T850-20241129_120000-1024x719.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-61905\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/RAOB_T850-20241129_120000-1024x719.png 1024w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/RAOB_T850-20241129_120000-300x211.png 300w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/RAOB_T850-20241129_120000-768x539.png 768w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/RAOB_T850-20241129_120000.png 1190w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">RAOB plots, 1200 UTC on 29 November 2024 (Click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rammb2.cira.colostate.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/QuickGuide_DayCloudPhaseDistinction_final_v2.pdf\">Day Cloud Phase Distinction RGB Imagery<\/a> from near Noon, below, shows that the bands over Lakes Erie and St. Clair are likely glaciating almost immediately (this is based on the color &#8212; yellowish\/green &#8212; of the RGB in those bands) compared to non-glaciated clouds (cyan or reddish in the RGB) over western Michigan with the lake-effect there.  The atmospheric motions one might infer from the cloud and radar motions is from Lake Michigan (where moisture is added to the lower troposphere) across southern Michigan.  Once the air re-emerges over Lake Erie, the moisture added over Lake Michigan means an atmosphere more pre-conditioned to the development of clouds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_DCPD-20241129_1636_to_1806anim.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1190\" height=\"835\" src=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_DCPD-20241129_1636_to_1806anim.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-61907\" style=\"width:794px;height:auto\"\/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">GOES-16 Day Cloud Phase Distinction RGB, 1636-1806 UTC on 29 November 2024 (Click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>GOES-East Low-level water vapor infrared imagery, below, at 1200 UTC, shows little variability in that field.  This suggests that moisture being added to the atmosphere is confined to the lowest part of the atmosphere, below what is detected by the 7.3 \u00b5m band.  The <a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/goes-wf\/plot-viewer\/#\/plot-viewer\/plot\/raob\/abi16\/default\/20241129_1200Z\/72632\">weighting function for KDTX<\/a> (that is, White Lake Michigan near Detroit), below, shows information at 7.3 \u00b5m is predominantly from the 600-700 mb (assuming clear skies, an admittedly dubious assumption).  The GeoXO (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nesdis.noaa.gov\/our-satellites\/future-programs\/geostationary-extended-observations-geoxo\">the follow-on to the GOES-R series of satellites, scheduled to launch in the mid-2030s<\/a>) satellite will detect radiation at 5.15 \u00b5m, a wavelength that allows moisture detection at even lower levels than bands on GOES-16\/GOES-18;  perhaps that channel will detect the moistening caused by Lake Michigan that allows Lake Effect Bands to develop more rapidly over downwind lakes, given a suitable trajectory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_BAND10-20241129_120117.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"719\" src=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_BAND10-20241129_120117-1024x719.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-61909\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_BAND10-20241129_120117-1024x719.png 1024w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_BAND10-20241129_120117-300x211.png 300w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_BAND10-20241129_120117-768x539.png 768w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/G16_BAND10-20241129_120117.png 1190w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">GOES-16 Low-Level water vapor infrared imagery (Band 10, 7.3 \u00b5m) at 1201 UTC on 29 November 2024 (Click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/CIMSS_WeightingFunction_DTX_1200_29NOV2024-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1179\" height=\"854\" src=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/CIMSS_WeightingFunction_DTX_1200_29NOV2024-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-61911\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/CIMSS_WeightingFunction_DTX_1200_29NOV2024-1.png 1179w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/CIMSS_WeightingFunction_DTX_1200_29NOV2024-1-300x217.png 300w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/CIMSS_WeightingFunction_DTX_1200_29NOV2024-1-1024x742.png 1024w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/CIMSS_WeightingFunction_DTX_1200_29NOV2024-1-768x556.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1179px) 100vw, 1179px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Weighting Functions for Bands 8,9,10 at KDTX, 1200 UTC 29 November 2024 (Click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For those (correctly!) wondering if lake surface temperatures might drive the difference in band development, consider the temperature analysis below for 28 November 2024 (<a href=\"https:\/\/apps.glerl.noaa.gov\/coastwatch\/webdata\/glsea\/glsea_6y\/year1_glsea.png\">source<\/a>).  Michigan and Erie temperatures are very similar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/GreatLakesSSTAnalysis_28Nove2024.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/GreatLakesSSTAnalysis_28Nove2024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-61919\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/GreatLakesSSTAnalysis_28Nove2024.png 1024w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/GreatLakesSSTAnalysis_28Nove2024-300x234.png 300w, https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2024\/11\/GreatLakesSSTAnalysis_28Nove2024-768x600.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Great Lakes Surface Temperature Analysis valid 28 November 2024 (Click to enlarge)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cold air over the Great Lakes (see the plot of 850-mb temperature from RAOB stations at 1200 UTC below; note the similarity in temperatures and wind speeds over the Great Lakes states) means Lake Effect Snow. The animation above (source) shows snow bands over western lower Michigan and also downwind of Lake St. Clair, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":19,"featured_media":61916,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,74,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-61902","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-general-interpretation","category-goes-16","category-winter-weather"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61902","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/19"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=61902"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61902\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":61923,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61902\/revisions\/61923"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/61916"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=61902"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=61902"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cimss.ssec.wisc.edu\/satellite-blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=61902"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}